BACKJUMPS, THE LIVE ISSUE #2, BERLIN

Postby ///EROSIE/// » September 4th, 2005, 7:55 pm

...here is the latest news from the upmost south of Holland the province of Limburg and it's burning-hot graffiti-capital Heerlen. You might think otherwise, but no this is not Berlin, it's Heerlen in Holland.
To our BIG surprise the twins from Sao Paulo were invited in this cctv-paradise in that strange part of Holland to do a mural...apparently they had some leftovers from the Backjumps-show in Berlin, the week before. :wink:

We jumped some fences and got into the building and luckily inside we discovered some additional visuals for the only person living there who we were lucky to meet on the roof, the model that the twins used to draw from, a funny character with a big nose and an adorable umbrella.

Strange town, Heerlen.

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Postby d'invluensko » September 4th, 2005, 8:05 pm

.oops mistake /damn! everything truely is an iq-test.
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Postby d'invluensko » September 4th, 2005, 8:19 pm

here another images.
this wall made by petra mrzyk and jeanfrancois moriceau
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ofcourse the tags and trowups where already there. as minimal the work is they did, at least they left the graffiti where it was.
not quite the same case with the osgemeos wall though-as the buffspots proof.. (more about this same stuff(gossip) in berlin perhaps later in this magazine).


and from jun'ya yamaide
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Postby d'invluensko » September 4th, 2005, 8:53 pm

d'invluensko wrote:weird walls they call this project in heerlen (NL), but it was quite wacky i must say. -except for that os-gemeons wall on that building. not so different from the one they did in berlin, but nevertheless big enough to impress. it could make a nice series like that in a year or two - great material for the taschen coffeetable-book soon to come out.
but,fan or not of their work, here is some 'less impressive' thing they also did in that same town for the same project.. it was announced as "a bonus-work" for the cultureweek of the town. hmm, quite a bit pushed away in a pissy corner of the square also.

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Postby dead street » September 4th, 2005, 10:07 pm

backjumps.... more pictures in the blog of LK the bitch.

you know LK.... pissing on the lokiss' grave..

i have to read all your messages.
And i will reply later. From spain in fact.

Anyway.

NOFITI ! BUT WARFITI !
and fuck' em all.
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anyway

Postby dead street » September 4th, 2005, 10:25 pm

tks Influenkaaza for the invitation...
I will only post one answer and then i will disappear b4 my trip to spain.

Intro : Backjumps was boring. Don't you think ?
excepted him and him and him and him.
And this strange city of names.

Tired kings...
Tired designers... tired merchandising.
Tired music.. tired sneakers. Tired teenagers.
Tired art.

20 years after. no change. Same receips.


Revolution will be commercialized.
Tee shirts first. Strickers and posters after.
Puppets for the losers.
Caps for the winners.

and no future.
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rammellzee

Postby dead street » September 4th, 2005, 10:43 pm

'You have to make profit !'

that's exactly what he claimed during the press conference.
I hope for him, that he will be heard.
From cosmos panzerism to earth commercializism....
The fall has been hard.
But good performance. 15 mn.................................
Pips labs as usual , completly fucked up.

late backstage time and final orgy. This tracy was hard to fuck.
Video on the backjumps dvd.
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Postby christian portel » September 5th, 2005, 12:43 am

you are crazy dead street ? ;..or really young :-)
perhaps backjumps is boring but i haven't see all commercial propagand like you write ? ...
strange hater :-))
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Postby eko » September 5th, 2005, 7:09 am

from http://www.flickr.com/photos/80732286@N00/

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from http://www.flickr.com/photos/loso/

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Postby TerrorStaak » September 5th, 2005, 9:40 am

PUTAIN! y'a personne qui demande avant de poster les photos ici???? :evil:

FUCK! nobody asked before posting pictures here???? :evil:
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Postby eko » September 5th, 2005, 9:57 am

TerrorStaak wrote:PUTAIN! y'a personne qui demande avant de poster les photos ici???? :evil:

FUCK! nobody asked before posting pictures here???? :evil:


I don't understand what's the problem Stak ?
The pictures are already online, i just post some links to them.

After painting in the streets for everybody's eyes, you want to make indoor paintings only for gallery visitors ?


http://www.fotolog.net/nikunstruction/?pid=10494923
http://www.fotolog.net/stak/?pid=11267209
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Postby ///EROSIE/// » September 5th, 2005, 10:05 am

Aha! Very good some heated discussion!

It's a good thing people can disagree...not everybody is either a assskissing fan or on the other side a player-hater. There is space in between right? Damn we're not spoiled little princes that cannot stand any comment! We're supposed to take stuff further aren't we?

Oh...and Terrorstaak; isn't that what happens to images you put in outside world? Aren't they supposed to communicate??? Isn't that what
S T R E E T A R T is about?
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Postby TerrorStaak » September 5th, 2005, 10:12 am

Ce qui me derange c'est l'utilisation d'images incompletes et sans explications.
(la suite je te l'envoie en mp)

what anoys me, is using incomplete pictures and without any explanations
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Postby ///EROSIE/// » September 5th, 2005, 10:29 am

Ok...could you post the complete pictures, with explanation? I'm curious to find out more...
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Postby d'invluensko » September 5th, 2005, 10:30 am

so give your translations instead of complaining other peoples efforts..

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Postby eko » September 5th, 2005, 10:35 am

What Stak explained me in a PM:

Stak doesn't enjoy seeing his work published without any explanation particularly when is shown only a part of his piece and not the whole one.

In a more general way, he is a bit tired of seeing this picture culture on internet. Pictures and only pictures, no explanations, no context.


(bon j'espère que c'est à peu près correct ma transcription Stak)

as an answer Stak, i could tell you something like: "if you don't like medias , become one". You can give your explanations here, or somewhere else.
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Postby ///EROSIE/// » September 5th, 2005, 10:42 am

Well...thanks Eko for expalining...but please give TERRORSTAAK space to explain it himself...he's not a retard in a wheelchair!

True that about the internet-picture-world...i completley agree. But he and so many others have a website themselves...and seem to use it to document the activities or non-activities in the streets...so internet ( and especially a forum like this) is a perfect way to take a inside look into motivations and explanations, to add some text and explanation!

The other questions is...IF THERE ARE ANY MOTIVATIONS OR EXPLANATIONS!!!

So...I'm curious to see what people, and also Stak have to add to this topic...it's interesting!
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Postby d'invluensko » September 5th, 2005, 11:15 am

the internet, ahh... the internet.. what an alien- and oh so distorting medium in relation to The Real Deal: the street..
'Cause thats where it really all happends.. sure ('sponsored by fotolog').

Nowadays ofcourse the internet-discourse (as superficial it mostly is) is an essential part of the artwork as a whole, and gives it its context -how people can read and understand it. As graffitimagazines and books and tv did.

As 'dead end' wrote: all art must undergo the test of 'tiredness' and bleed. In a battle its up to the art itself to show if it can resist the pressure.
Its war and there's no respect for decoration.

More general, but nonetheless quite true: being frustrated about the internet-effect is like being tired about the cycle of day and night.

finally, Sun Tsu said it more then 2000 years ago "If detail can't stand daylight, what is sum of details".
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Postby CRE » September 5th, 2005, 11:34 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

sacré stak !!!
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Postby ///EROSIE/// » September 5th, 2005, 11:51 am

Cool to read Sun Tsu had ideas about doing streetart 2000 years ago...

But ofcourse "sponsored by fotolog"is not enough. :D That's the point.

Both exhibitions (i thought we were still talking about this) and internet can add something to the original form; the streets.

Exhibitions can for instance build a bridge to the artworld, internet and books can give it text, explanation and context...

But can they replace it? How serious can the "thoughts and ideas" of streetartists or post-graffiti-people be taken to ONLY see them in an art-space, book, magazine or on internet? Or is it just about playing out the form...and tire it out...
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